I am looking through my '13 Outlier 2008 Predictions' and so far so good, and at a far quicker pace than I imagined on some of them. Part of #7 might be coming true tomorrow in fact.
After over 2.5 years of not suffering a down 2% day dating through early 2007, volatility in the stock market takes over as the theme of the year, 2% daily increases and drops become a weekly occurrence.
Check!
The market suffers its first 20% drop (from Oct 9, 2007 peak) in the first half of 2007 as consensus emerges that "a major slowdown" (which dared not be called a recession due to elections coming), is happening.
Let's see where we have to hit to get to this 20% prediction among all 4 major indexes
DJIA Oct 9th: 14,280 - 20% off = 11,424 (current 12,099)
S&P 500 Oct 9th: 1576 - 20% off = 1261 (current 1325)
NASDAQ (actually peaked a few weeks later @ 2861) - 20% off = 2289 (current 2340)
Russell 2000 Oct 9th: 856 - 20% off = 685 (current 673) check
Anyhow I expect a woolly day tomorrow short of any surprise interventions. Certainly a 4-5% down day on major indexes could be in store with individual names down far more than that. If history is a precedent (and it hasn't been lately) it would not be surprising if this did not mark a near term bottom and a tradeable low is (finally) created Tuesday or Wednesday. From which we should get a powerful move upward. (which should be sold within a few weeks, after CNBC returns to "the bottom was in, in mid January" coverage)
Remember how my #7 prediction ends ;)
The market ends the year only down 2.78% as economic based bloggers throughout the world wonder what it takes to make the market ever go down?
Allright that portion seems like a work of fiction now, but with the flood of foreign infusions that should be hitting our markets by summer as the US goes on blue light specials, let's see how it plays out. We are not even 1/12th of the way through the year, although it feels like 3 years...
So hold on to your crash helmet tomorrow and remember, traditionally through the emotional selloffs, come some great profit opportunities. Easy to say on paper, but certainly it is something one should experience as well. :)
Monday, January 21, 2008
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6 comments:
With worldwide sell off today, foreign infusions may coming sooner than summer?
Hi Al,
I don't want to sound alarmist but I think this is leg 1 in a bigger bear market potentially. But even in bear mkts we have very strong counter trend moves.
So I would not be surprised to see a 10-13% type of upswing off of these very oversold levels. And then a resumption down.
I think the foreigners are going to be busy propping up our banking system for the next half year. They can worry about picking off the rest of the economy later in the year. :) Myself (just a guess) is I think they will find cheaper prices later in the year. But we shall see. Timing the market is very difficult... I would just prefer a completely flat market in which individual stocks rise and fall on their own merits. Right now the market is taking everything with it up or down, which has been the pattern since August in fact. A bit frustrating as a stock picker.
its nice that you were intellectually correct with your predictions, but unfortunately your fund has been poorly positioned as evidenced by the decline in NAV. textbook case of "do as i say, not as I do"
true. But even the 'gurus' on the street in the fund world are getting hit; i.e. Heebner's funds are down mid teens YTD etc. Even with a 20-25% cash/short position it would not of sheltered much considering the long positions are going down 30%+. We'll see how it shakes out in the longer run. Being long focused, it simply is unavoidable to not be down in NAV in this environment YTD.
Mark, This is perfect set up if we can close less than 200 point down on DJI, i would consider it a turn. With aapl earning after hour, they can gap it up big and have everybody chase it tomorrow. But what if they sell the earning this afternoon, then we are looking at the abyss for this weekly close. Vix spike up to 34. I personally think, it may not work this time for a v shape rebound. I view this 75 rate cut as more of a panic move , and the market will show up again as no confident in the fed.
It is shaping up nicely. We will probably get a mid day headfake back down perhaps but last hour will tell the story. If we sell off hard in the last hour or so I would be concerned.
That said, some valuations are just starting to become ridiculous out there.
I think if the Fed cuts 50 more next week they will have finally caught up to the curve. Perception means everything in times like this, as this is a confidence issue. If we find some "gov't" solution to those darn bond insurers I'd feel more comfortable. :)
I'd like to see a nice rally to early February at least, and then after the rally we will do another probe down. Unfortunately to make money in this market you have to spend half your time guessing 10% moves in the market, instead of focusing on stock picking. Very difficult.
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