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Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Robert Prechter of Elliott Wave Fame Advises Closing Shorts

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I don't follow Elliott Wave theory, but I know it's a quite popular form of "black magic" ... so I thought I'd pass it along. Via Bloomberg
  • Elliott Wave International Inc.’s Robert Prechter, who advised shorting U.S. stocks three months before the bear market began, said investors should end that bet after the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index tumbled to a 12-year low.
  • He warned of a “sharp and scary” rebound for anyone still wagering on a retreat, according to this month’s “Elliott Wave Theorist.” Short selling is the sale of borrowed stock in the hope of profiting by buying the securities later at a lower price and returning them to the shareholder.
  • “This is an environment of escalating financial chaos,” wrote Prechter, famous for cautioning that stocks would crash two weeks before the Black Monday retreat in 1987. “Our main job is to keep the money we have. If we exit now, we will do that.”
  • The 60-year-old former rock-and-roll drummer is an advocate of the wave principle, a theory developed by accountant Ralph Nelson Elliott during the Great Depression. Elliott concluded that market swings, or waves, follow a predictable, five-stage structure of three steps forward, two steps back.
  • In addition, the waves share a variety of features: Wave two never falls below the starting level of wave one; wave three is never the shortest; waves one and five tend to be of equal length; and wave sizes are often related by a series of numbers known as the Fibonacci sequence, wherein each number is based on the sum of the two previous ones.
  • In July 2007, Prechter advised shorting U.S. stocks, saying “aggressive speculators should return to a fully leveraged short position.” He has now reversed that call.
  • “The market is compressed,” Prechter said in the note published yesterday. “When it finds a bottom and rallies, it will be sharp and scary for anyone who is short. I would rather be early than late.”
  • He has written or edited 13 books, including “Elliott Wave Principle: Key to Market Behavior” in 1978 and “Conquer the Crash” in 2002. His 1995 book “At the Crest of the Tidal Wave: A Forecast for the Great Bear Market,” was published five years before the Internet bubble burst, driving a 49 percent retreat in the S&P 500 through October 2002. Still, investors who followed his advice missed out on the index more than doubling.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mark, do you follow Elliot Waves? I have been reading some of his articles on marketoracle in the UK. It sounded interesting, but I was not sure how these predictions can be adapted to short term periods. It is also that his "competitor" Martin Weiss is just predicting that a total meltdown of the market is imminent. These newsletters must be good business now.

Janet

TraderMark said...

Janet, as I stated in the first sentence I do not follow it.

Some people who have been bearish for ages are now milking it and saying "see we told you" but you missed some huge rallies in the 90s and/or mid 2000s ...

I prefer flexibility myself - always a time to be a bear and time to be a bull. Sticking to one way or the other for 20 years doesnt make sense to me.

Again I am not saying that is Prechter - I do see his name a lot in trading circles but I know very little aside from the "big picture" of the theory. Much like gold bugs the Elliott wave people are generally very hard core believers :)

UrbaneGorilla said...

Janet. I just finished a book on the subject last week. Elliott Waves apply to any time frame in the same way any indicator does. keep in mind that you don;t necessarily always have the benefit of Elliott Waves. You have to watch for the setup. Having said that, after taking 1 year of Psychology, I could see all sorts of aberrant behavior in my own actions and thoughts. Now I see the 5 steps in just about anything. If you like Waves, you'll also need to brush up on Fibonacci Retracements as well, as they are often used as a pair.

jegan

Anonymous said...

Thanks Jegan. It seems to be an interesting idea, because markets don't appear to move based on fundamental data about a business, but there is a herd instinct. Perhaps most people working in a given profession have gone through the same type of education and therefore think and act alike. Analyst seem to often forgo thinking and rely too heavily on their blackberries and rumors. Psychology is probably a good preparation for the market.

Janet

UrbaneGorilla said...

Janet : Re "{Perhaps most people working in a given profession have gone through the same type of education and therefore think and act alike". So true. This concept has been suggested in several books. Keep telling people that when a stock does **something** enough times and everyone will begin to react to that stimulus. Kind of 'Pavlovian'. Anyway. I'm impressed more by Fibs than Waves.

jegan

Ben Hall said...

If you guys would like to know more about Elliott waves and in particular Prechter's science behind social behavior. You should watch the Socionomics Institute Documentary, History's Hidden Engine. Link is here: www.socionomics.net/

UrbaneGorilla said...

Ben .. Thanks for the link. Will check it out. jegan

Anonymous said...

I have followed Prechter's waves at FNN for about 20 years since the dow was at the 800 level. Everything made sense (afterward), but his newsletter had too many alternative waves and possibilities that it was virtually impossible to follow and to make any money.

If Prechter predicts a strong rebound, he may be early by as much as 1000 point on the DOW. That is not much of a prediction, I am afraid to say.

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