Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Bookkeeping: Cutting Apple (AAPL) Going Into Earnings

TweetThis
I expect Apple (AAPL) to have good earnings and their custom lowball guidance. Which they will beat in 3 months. This is what they always do - but the market reacts randomly to this "guidance game" - some quarters they are fine with it, some quarters they go into panic taking the company at its word. January 2008 was an example of panic and we were caught red handed by a plummeting stock as rats jumped off the ship. 3 monts later the company trounced analysts estimates but it didn't help stop us from losing our shirt. Lemmings do not act rationally.

So with that said, along with the fact we almost always cut back exposure going into any earnings, I am cutting back Apple here in the $96 range ahead of earnings taking it down from a 2.7% stake to 1.5% of the fund. Again this is an act of being conservative, not doubting that Apple will have a good number. Earnings season is many times my least favorite period because gamblers across the world jump into stocks hoping for a pop and if they don't get it, they leave en masse creating bad outcomes much of the time. If, for whatever reason, the stock surges as investors are pleased with what the company says - we won't participate as much but in this market, pleasing gets you +10% and disappointing gets you -40%. That is not in our odds.

We'll probably do the same with Potash (POT) tomorrow ahead of earnings Thursday simply because while I *assume* all the bad news is reflected in the stock price, it really never is in this market and being down 40% in 5% of your portfolio is simply not worth it. It is always easier to make up a lost opportunity than making up lost capital.

Long Apple in fund; no personal position

6 comments:

Link McGinnis said...

Hey Mark,
Not long ago you were suggesting that joyg was now below $42 and a great buy. But, didn't act due to the lending freeze. Is it time to revisit that buy with joyg below 29 and the thaw that is beginning to set in?

Thanks!

TraderMark said...

It sort is part of that whole global growth/commodity space - buy one, buy them all.

We need to see a lot more improvement in credit markets to feel confidence - almost all the banks are simply relying on central banks, still.

The other problem for BUCY and JOYG is their input costs are still quite high but with steel perhaps coming down that will help. The stock has acted horribly considering 1/5th of its shares will soon be gone. If you have a 3 year horizon I like it here though.

crappy said...

The global engineering stocks just got estimated cut by GS due to project delays. However, JEC just got 2 contracts in the news today. Go figure. I'm waiting to see if the Jim Cramer technique of waiting until estimates get cut and PE skyrockets is when you should buy these stocks (anticipating an economic upswing).

TraderMark said...

Perception is reality in the stock market. Real contracts don't matter as long as the perception is quarters of cancellations ahead.

While I expect oversold rallies along the way, the whole global commodity/growth complex will probably be in a rut until 6-9 months ahead of a global recovery. So next summer is the time to start picking them up for true buy and holds. But they should have some good trades in between now and then

Risk Manager Jeff said...

There's alot of uncertainty in the earnings. That's something I agree with Cramer about, regarding these companies. Longer term, I think these will do great as their costs are falling, and the projects are merely delayed. But over the next year, could be in for a little chop. That uncertainty is weighing on them. this is a sector I just want to pick at, when the market is oversold on the daily and 60 min charts. That isnt right now....

Mark, the volatility is now shrinking to a mere 5% daily swing now... that's the first step to back to some confidence in stocks.. which is nice, since I can stop pretending the 15 min chart is a daily chart.

TraderMark said...

If you trace out the volatility on the 1 day chart today it was probably close to 10% again

full 3% round trip moves 3x? down, then up, then back down... sigh

Post a Comment

Disclaimer: The opinions listed on this blog are for educational purpose only. You should do your own research before making any decisions.
This blog, its affiliates, partners or authors are not responsible or liable for any misstatements and/or losses you might sustain from the content provided.


Site by codeeo
Original WP Premium theme by WP Remix