- Days from becoming the largest bankruptcy in US history, Lehman Brothers steered millions to departing executives even while pleading for a federal rescue, US Congress has been told.
- Waxman quoted Fuld as saying in one document, "Don't worry'' to the suggestion that executives go without bonuses. That suggestion came from Lehman's money management subsidiary, Neuberger Berman. Waxman quoted George H Walker, President Bush's cousin and a Lehman executive who oversaw some Neuberger Berman employees, as responding with a dismissive tone to the idea of going without bonuses. Sorry team,'' he wrote to the executive committee, according to Waxman. "I'm not sure what's in the water at 605 Third Avenue today.... I'm embarrassed and I apologise.''
In March I posted a piece from the Wall Street Journal called the Lost Decade [Mar 26 - WSJ: Stocks Tarnished by Lost Decade] Essentially through that point stocks had returned 0% since 2000. I wrote
For the great many who live normal lives and investing is simply something they do through most large cap mutual funds (many of which are simply S&P 500 clones disguised to rake in large fees) in their regular accounts or 401ks, it's been a tough decade. And that's not adjusted for inflation in which real returns are clearly negative. Last, that's in dollar terms; the story has been a disaster for foreign investors who have had to put up with the dollar decimation to boot (on top of inflation adjusted real returns). So while the stock market does well over "long periods" of times, I'd consider a decade to be a serious amount of time - and this has been a bad decade. Unless you had the stomach (following huge losses in 2001/2002) or simply had good timing to start following the stock market in 2003, there has simply been no easy way to make money using traditional indexes. And NASDAQ investors? Still down in a big way.
I am mulling if we have another lost decade coming in front of us - don't think it can happen? Japan has been in bear market since 1989. We are NOT Japan, but we do have some of the same bubbles/mistakes (easy money, low interest rates, housing bubble, etc). While we used to allow creative destruction in the past 3-6 months we've seemed to have shifted to a more socialistic model where losses are socialized... sort of what we criticized Japan for doing.
Boy that socialization of losses comment was after just Bear Stearns - talk about foreshadowing.
Obviously things have gotten much worse since - heck March was "good times" in relative terms. The market actually topped out 1 year ago today (S&P 500) and in that short time has lost a third of its value. Breathtaking. Bloomberg has an article updating on where we stand and it is ugly - if the decade ended now (obviously we have 2 years to go) this would be a worse decade than the Great Depression decade - the 1930s. Now, that's a stark reminder of just how awful the market has been for much of this decade. But not for everyone - just for many of those who play by the rules... I honestly wonder how Peter Lynch would handle this decade when many of the names in his book of "buy what you know" have done, at best, nothing - if not gone down precipitously.
- Even the 1930s are looking better for U.S. stock investors after the credit crisis wiped out more than $6 trillion from equities in the past year. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index lost 18 percent since the start of 2000 after sinking 11 percent this month, total return data compiled by Bloomberg show. The decline would be the first for a decade in 70 years and exceeds the 8.9 percent plunge in the 1930s, following the stock market crash of 1929, data compiled by New York University's Stern School of Business show.
- The S&P 500 stood at a record 1,565.15 one year ago, the peak of a five-year bull market that helped investors recoup losses from the dot-com bust at the start of the decade. Since then, the measure tumbled 32 percent, including dividends, as the collapse of the U.S. housing market upended the economy, froze credit markets and saddled financial firms with almost $600 billion in mortgage-related writedowns and credit losses.
- While stocks lost money, 10-year Treasury bonds returned 86 percent this decade, data compiled by Bloomberg and Aswath Damodaran, a finance professor at New York University, show. (that's sad)
- Earnings at S&P 500 companies fell 5.6 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, according to consensus analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg. That would be the fifth straight quarterly decline and match a streak ended in March 2002.
- ``You don't cure a blast wound with a band-aid,'' said Stovall, the 82-year-old World War II veteran who has worked in the financial industry for more than 50 years. ``It's quite possible that the residue of all this damage could extend well through 2009.''
- The S&P 500 fell during the first three years of this decade, its longest streak of annual declines since 1939 to 1941. Investors were battered by the bursting of the technology bubble that pushed share prices to their highest level relative to earnings, and the bankruptcies of Enron Corp. and WorldCom Inc., two of the largest U.S. companies by market value.
- Arthur Cashin, a member of the New York Stock Exchange for 44 years, says the speed and scope of the latest global sell-off makes the financial meltdown more dangerous and harder to contain than any previous crisis after $25 trillion of market value was wiped out worldwide. The credit crunch ``has become a financial forest fire,'' he said. ``I have never seen it happening contemporaneously all around the globe where everyone is impacted.''









4 comments:
Hi TM
What is even sadder or bizarre is that the last 10 years was supposed to be the decade of the individual investor; you know go on line and do it yourself. It has become a national past time that will likely fade until the next bull market top.
Hi Guy,
I think that was more true in the early part of the decade then now. I mean EVERYONE in workplaces I knew in 99 was "trading". After the bloodbath I just havent seen that like in 2004-2006
I think that episode really made people leave and many went to real estate of course
now they will move to matresses.
However it did provide a lesson - last fall I was reading of Chinese housewives trading and was reading so many stories similar to NASDAQ era so I knew it was time to escape Dodge _ I was about 6 weeks early but it worked. We even had a post about Brazil about 4-5 months ago so I had cut back but not "out" as much in Brazil.
Note - when you start seeing the "everyday man" on cover of mainstream magazines and/or stories of housewives daytrading time to short that country :)
You may have all seen this, but sarcasm is all that's left
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/10/new-stock-marke.html
I especially liked the following
BEAR MARKET -- A 6 to 18 month period when the kids get no allowance, the wife gets no jewelry, and the husband gets no sex.
VALUE INVESTING -- The art of buying low and selling lower.
P/E RATIO -- The percentage of investors wetting their pants as the market keeps crashing.
BROKER -- What my broker has made me.
I had CNBC playing in the background, and was kinda listening to the 'The bottom is almost here and why you should stay invested' discussion with some talking heads. And I didn't look up in time to see who said it, (Erin Burnett or Maria Bartiromo... ), but one or the other stated "I've been in the market for 10 years and am presently at a break-even"... Kind of telling, isn't it...
jegan
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