As to the infrastructure stocks - as always it is not the news, but the reaction to the news that matters. This reaction is awful but in this day and age I can no longer tell if its selling by humans or simply algorithms selling, so hard to 'read' anything into the reactions. But this is simply a market like no other - I continue to see the type of awful reactions reserved for stocks that completely miss earnings, while the companies missing earnings are rewarded with 30-50% gains in a month. I know its all "buy the loser thinking since everything reverts to a mean" but the velocity and relentlessness of said moves is beyond compare of anything I've seen in 12+ years. Company after company, we are seeing entire years worth of gains disappear... and these are not the ones with exposure to subprime or systematic risk. Again, either they are telegraphing the type of global recession where we want to own nothing but gold or this is just massive liquidations in the hedge fund community.
I am copying this from Cramer simply because it pretty much summarizes my thoughts tick for tick. I wrote yesterday
As for Fluor (FLR) it is making a valient effort to hold the 200 day moving average ($77) but its peer group is being systematically dismembered since the world is heading for the abyss ... err the world ex the US of A which will thrive as it decouples from the rest of the world. The stock is trading near $80 in after hours but we have to keep a very tight leash on this because if the stock breaks down, it has potential to follow the death spiral of its peers. Despite the fundamentals
I'll point out below I continue to be perplexed by Foster Wheeler - it posts similar growth numbers to Fluor but trades at 14x instead of 24x earnings. Backlog is not growing quite as fast, but why it trades at such a discount is a great question.
Cramer writes
Foster Wheeler (FWLT - commentary - Cramer's Take), Fluor (FLR - commentary - Cramer's Take) and McDermott (MDR - commentary - Cramer's Take) are in free fall, and while I was disappointed in McDermott's earnings, I am miffed that FWLT and FLR, which had really great backlogs and earnings, can't get any support at all here.
Fluor, first of all, guided up very big, one of the biggest I have seen, so for this stock to be down 10% seems absurd. Foster Wheeler now trades at less than one time its backlog, a solid backlog put on mostly when oil was substantially lower, so there is almost no chance of cancellation.
Yet nobody cares because of the price of crude.
This is a market that loves and hates with such passion that you have to ask yourself if this is the moment when you have to start buying and putting away stocks that sell at valuations that make no sense unless oil is going to $60, which is how I feel with these two.
It is also how I feel about National Oilwell Varco (NOV - commentary - Cramer's Take), with an order book that, again, is the envy of the industry and, again, just needs natural gas above $7 and oil about $70 to make the numbers for at least the next three years.
Unfortunately, the pain of sticking with stocks like Fluor and Foster and National Oilwell is beyond the ken of most mortals.
These are not dot-coms. There is some worth here. But nobody cares. One day they will. The trick is to remain alive and in the game until they do, because we know, from the banks, that when they turn, and they will turn because their businesses are, long term so excellent and steady, you will not be able to get into them. You will, by nature, be too late.
Sometimes you have to lose some big money to make some bigger money. That's how I feel about these stocks at these levels.
But boy do I feel lonely.









5 comments:
Actually, no one wants to buy gold right now either.
mark i get a weird feeling we're setting up for a HUGE crash.
this leadership is bogus so when it breaks...if energy/commodities don't come back it's pure downside? this makes sense right?
also you have to see the realmoney post in technical tuesday....where the guy shows that since 2005...the markets have a strong POSITIVE correlation to oil prices...i guess 70,80,90,100,110 oil is good...as it moves up..but oh no 120 is bad (like you said)
it's sad.
Master,
That is because we are so egotistical that we are going to be the 1 country to sit as a 'safe haven' and 'recover' while the rest of the world implodes around us. Who needs gold when you have the US Dollar
Bill,
Let's see what happens when Freddie implodes. Should be soon enough. People's attention span is short - the jobs numbers and Freddie/Fannie seem like a distant memory - lol that was way back a week ago.
QLD seems to be acting well. Crop report caused Ags to sell off in premarket. Now they are coming back strong. Sellers washed out?
Bear market has made every group ex-healthcare now the same
any hopeful longs are gutted, you have to buy when they crash, then sell on the hopeful bounce
the name of the sector is now irrelevent ex-healthcare. It's all the same "trade". Just different sectors rotating in and out of the outhouse.
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